Edit. Ok so it was supposed to rain all day and I had a super easy day today. I thought I would try em anyway see how they do.Fit aside, I have a pair of 35/32s coming. Hopefully that will be enough. Im roughly 200lbs and 6'1 athletic build. .We'll start with some pros. The pants aren't very swooshy compared to most other polyco dwr pants. The fabric seems durable more like a canvas weave than other brands. The stitching on this pair is pretty good, no complaints, a few fliers. The overall fit is nice these do fit close to the skin "athletic" , if your a heavy boy these probly aren't for you. But then again if you need these pants you probably aren't such a big boy idk. The gussets and knees waistband etc make this very comfortable and the tight fight is very much ideal in an adverse scenario.They are a pretty cool-ish running pant, the fabric always feels cool to the touch. but do a good job keeping icey wind off. Ideal for an active fall winter pant around here imo but can def be chilly if not moving. Probably be a bit warm in the summer. Like all these types of pants. Thin fabric only helps if wind can get through..Overall seem like a great pant.Now there are some cons.These ride quite low. And have a pretty high crotch , it was a constant struggle pulling them up and pulling down again. Low cuts may be a bit more popular around town but not for serious work. Or if you have a pack on etc. And these are lower than you'd expect even saying that.. At this point the low rise and hi crotch is my biggest concern. They do droop slightly in the rear . Not quite big enough for my patootie it seems. But still makes your butt look good. Hey that matters.The cargo pockets have a nice design. But because of that they are pretty tight to your body. Not the best dump pouch , do struggle sometimes getting my hands in them . The zipper is much smaller than the pocket, I guess cause pocket stretches a bit. And the big one is the pocket organizers. This is going to be very different depending your use but something that should be pointed out. They are sewn shut on the bottom , do run the length of the pocket. That could be a good thing. Just don't accidentally put anything small in that pocket. An open bottom would be better for me. Also. These are a solid band, not an elastic band. Because these cargo pockets are so tight and the bands not elastic to give there were several times I tried to put my phone in em and the organizers completely rejected my phone from going in and it fell on the ground. Have to put in at an angle to bypass. Again depends on you.The cargo pocket itself is pretty good tho. The length of the pocket organizers perfectly hold my 33rd glock mag and let me zip the pocket while holding tight enough to body it doesn't print. I'd call that a success. Width wise, standard ar magAlso these are 2 way stretch not 4. And not the most stretchy but good enough imo.Last con sort of is the dwr coating. Its ok for light rain. But if you brush the water drops it will go into the pant. And as for the ad claims of being stain resistant, ya cause water beads off. But nothing else does. Dirt is not going to just brush right off. I had a super light day today why I thought of trying them. And even still they are just as dirty as regular pants. I didnt care about those claims but put that in the review. They aren't magical stay clean pants. I like the pant alot, the small crotch and butt room may be the downfall after I get waist right, well see.Other than that I can deal with a tight dump pocket given the clean lookSeems like pretty good pant. Im gonna get a larger size but pretty disappointing. 34 / 32 is what I get in every pant. Its usually a little big or perfect. But these are too small to edc carry even if unbuttoning. Too small to put my hands in my pockets comfortably. Stretched out the waistband all the way. Bummer. Also fit like a 31 length wise but thats actually good for my body.Otherwise pant seems like better quality than propper summerweight I been wearing.i Like the dense stretchy mesh in pockets. Overall no complaints . Just wish I knew sizing was off. I swear I read the reviews tooThis review is probably a mess. But bottom line. Really great edc pant as the name suggests. And they do have a stryke pant that solves some of the problems I've mentioned if that's your jam. The only real issue for me is the low waist and hi crotch...plummers crack/moose knuckle up front ?Imo if they gave these the tunnel waistband and made em a more waist high fit they could be perfect. All they would need was like a 20gram and a 6 gram pant and I would wear all yr long. All my other cons are subjective.Oh!! There have been a few times the zipper snagged and had to 2 hand it but mostly 1 hand zips.If you read all this, good for you mane