Was looking at 5.11 pants and saw these were similar but cheaper and decided to take chance on them. Good quality with some minor nags.I have 5 or 6 pairs of 5.11 pants amd these are definitely a thicker material. I've only worn these 3 times but they seem morr durable. That being said, they are much less breathable. I can wear my 5.11's in my workshop (with poor ventilation) during the summer and not feel hot or sweaty. These pants, by comparison, make my legs feel hot and sweaty within half an hour of being in the shop. Though, if the trade-off is more durability and lower price, that could be a worthwhile trade-off for some.The material is also quite not as flexible as 5.11. I can squat in 5.11 without feeling like the seams will stretch, but these pants I feel more tension when I squat or bend.Pockets are plentiful and there are small, metal tabs to hand things on, which is nice, however the mouth of the main hip pockets are too small. I have pretty small hands compared to most guys and it's still pretty tight for me. Anyone with a large screen phone might need to store it in the cargo knee pockets.Overall pleased with the quality at the price. If 5.11 is a bit to spendy to you I would highly recommend these as a second choice.